Coronavirus: What we know about the end of the lockdown!

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11/05/2020 at 00:00

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Hello everyone,

If you haven’t already seen in the news, many countries in Europe and elsewhere in the world are starting to discuss or put measures in place to end the COVID-19 lockdown.

In his address last night, the Prime Minister Johnson announced an easing of restrictions regarding the lockdown rather than simply ending it.

The Government has established five tests that will have to be met before considering an end to the lockdown:

Ensuring that the NHS has sufficient capacity
A sustained and consistent fall in the daily mortality rate
Reliable data showing a decreasing rate of infection
Adequate supplies of tests and PPE for demand
No risk of a second peak of the virus

In addition, a new COVID Alert System, determined by the R number (the rate of COVID infection) and the number of Coronavirus cases, has been put in place to indicate how strict social distancing measures must be. It includes five alert levels, Level 1 meaning COVID-19 is no longer present in the UK and Level 5 meaning a critical material risk of overwhelming the NHS.

Starting Wednesday, people in England who "can't work from home" will be encouraged to return to work, but should avoid public transport if possible. From this date people in England will also be able to spend more time outdoors for leisure, including unlimited outdoor exercise, sport, or sun in parks. The PM also indicated that starting June 1, England may be in a place to reopen primary schools, shops and nurseries in phases, and hopes that some public places (including restaurants, cinemas and places of worship) may reopen starting July 1.

The Welsh, Scottish, and Northern Ireland governments have indicated that they will not be following with the June 1 date for primary schools. Decisions are awaited regarding the opening of shops and other businesses.

What do you think about this easing of restrictions? Is it too early? What do you think the impact will be on those who are extremely vulnerable or at risk? Do have any questions? Have you had any further information from your GP or medical team?

Feel free to share your thoughts and questions below!

Take care,

Courtney

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22/05/2020 at 15:41

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@Courtney_J‍ Thank you for posting the above.

This is greatly appreciated and I am sure many members will appreciate your post.

Times are hard for us all during COVID-19 and many families are suffering grief, abuse, lack of employment, lack of financial backing and lack of family/relative contact i.e. with parents, brothers/sisters, grandparents, grandchildren and more.

Please may you all stay safe, be kind to others and wishing you all a good weekend ahead.

Here's to another long weekend as its a Bank Holiday here on Monday 25th May, 2020!

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@lesmal Yes,these times are hard, but if we come together we'll make it through together. Hope everyone is enjoying this lovely spring bank holiday. This is about all I've managed today:

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28/05/2020 at 17:17

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If we look at the statistics, the under 60 year olds with no underlying health problems are at minimal risk of developing a serious illness from catching the virus.

If you are over 60 the risk begins to multiply, the older you are the more the risk. This unfortunately means that the government will sacrifice the over 60 year olds in favour of the economy. I am in this category and will have to make my own risk assessment and not just follow government policy.

Anyone else in the over 60 age group needs to think about what their own particular risk will be. It is depressing but these are the facts, we will have to hope that a treatment or vaccine is developed to allow us to live a fuller life.

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@Mike01

Have to agree with you Mike the statistics clearly show that the over 60s are at greatest risk together those with underlying conditions. My wife and myself fall into this group and know that catching this disease will be a death sentence. Long term it seems we must simply isolate or die as there is little chance of a vaccine. But Flu can kill just as many of us each year in very similar numbers if they get the Flu jab wrong. It is clear that 'herd immunity' is their real theory to resolve the problem but that won't help us in this older group. It is quite interesting that the Flu epidemic post WW1 was very similar and resolved in the same way. Vaccine is a solution but like the Flu the evidence is that Covid-19 changes and we will be facing several strains each year, stay safe.

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29/05/2020 at 11:33

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@robjmckinney Hi there , a ray of hope in respect of vaccine, they are about to try one on Humans in Australia that was already in the pipe line for COVID type flus, as well as a pilot scheme here in UK. Think we still have to take one day at a time and be very alert to precautions. I am in the same catagory as you and your wife its not nice is it ? we can only take care of ourselves best we are able in the circumstances. Take care.

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@Katieoxo22

Hi Katie,

The issue with any vaccine is there are several strains of Covid-19, so any real success will be very limited. Plus each year the strain will change and all existing vaccines will be useless. Apparently our Covid-19 is quite different to the one from China as it adapted, just like the Flu jab is very hit and miss each year, stay safe.

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@robjmckinney Yes thats right the flu injections no matter for which virus are changing constantly, its a risk for all respiratory illness or weakened immunities. But I am not sure everyone wants to be confined all the time because of virus risk or cold risk ect. Even pnuemonia jabs don't protect against all.

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29/05/2020 at 15:22

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From what I have read the basic shape of the virus has not changed, this hopefully will mean that if a vaccine is developed it will work on the variants of the virus that are currently around. A vaccine works by stimulating anti bodies in the blood to lock onto the shape of the virus.

Our best hope might be a vaccine and a new treatment that prevents the pneumonia, it is this that is killing people. If a treatment is developed to prevent the lungs from filling with mucus it will be a game changer.

All of us that are over 60 have to remain optimistic, if nothing is found the choice open to us is not very palatable, it would be like every day we would be saying in our best Clint Eastwood tones ;Do you real lucky punk; just before we step outside of our house.

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@Katieoxo22

Hi Katie,

That is what this 'herd immunity' is all about as future generations build up a natural immunity. But sadly us weak and old have no natural immunity, so the powers to be right us off as we seen from the care homes. My wife beat pneumonia twice but it is bound to get her at some time and my diabetes gives me the worst odds. All we can do is isolate and this maybe for many years from what the impression I get from published material. Stay safe.

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@Mike01

Hi Mike,

Yes there does seem to be many conflicting reports, more recent ones put the vaccine at 50% effective, or one of them anyway. Others say there are different strains or there will be no effective vaccine. All we can do is hope, my wife has been on Quinine for 40 years but one says it does work/help, WHO says not, yet we have several major trials including in Britain. Other drugs banded about from Ebola cures to Aids suppressants as well as at least 5 different vaccines possibilities around the world. Perhaps one may work out but at a guess would be questionable on effectiveness. So long term isolation for the old and infirm maybe the best option, stay safe.

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